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【求助】芬国昐死后去哪了?

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芬国昐,死了以后去哪了?


来自Android客户端1楼2015-05-18 16:31回复
    刚多林


    来自WindowsPhone客户端2楼2015-05-18 17:03
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      无一例外的都会去曼督斯的殿堂吧


      IP属地:山东来自Android客户端3楼2015-05-20 03:24
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        应该是先曼都斯殿堂,然后过若干年就复活又住在维林诺了吧。
        你说为什么不派他回中土呢?金花应该不如芬熊吧。芬熊没准能直接把索伦干掉。


        4楼2015-05-20 04:11
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          其实我倒是想知道芬熊重生之后不知道费纳芬会不会让出王位来。。。。。
          毕竟芬熊是长子呀。


          5楼2015-05-20 06:54
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            不知道


            来自Android客户端6楼2015-05-20 08:50
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              楼主天天水,


              来自Android客户端7楼2015-05-20 09:05
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                尸体在刚多林,灵魂回曼督斯


                IP属地:北京来自iPhone客户端8楼2015-05-20 11:22
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                  魂反曼督斯殿堂的事情作者已经这么说了,应该不需要每个都要提



                  IP属地:山东来自Android客户端9楼2015-05-20 12:35
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                    一直脑补他复活了= =


                    IP属地:福建来自iPhone客户端10楼2015-05-20 12:36
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                      而且费纳芬的安格罗德与艾格诺儿并不是楼主所说提到他们返回维林诺



                      IP属地:山东来自Android客户端11楼2015-05-20 12:38
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                        芬国昐死后去了·曼督斯的殿堂


                        12楼2015-05-20 15:51
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                          首先我申明一下 我觉得芬国昐是去了曼督斯的 只是托老没有特意提起他 估计芬熊也是要在小黑屋里关上挺久的 复活肯定木有曼督斯偏心的第三金发家族芬罗德快 就没提起吧
                          这段原文算是科普一下精灵如果不听曼督斯召唤的另一种可能


                          IP属地:安徽13楼2015-05-20 19:11
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                            摘自HoME第十册OF RE-BIRTH AND OTHER DOOMS OF THOSE THAT GO TO MANDOS
                            The fea is single, and in the last impregnable. It cannot be brought to Mandos. It is summoned; and the summons proceeds from just authority, and is imperative; yet it may be refused. Among those who refused the summons (or rather invitation) of the Valar to Aman in the first years of the Elves, refusal of the summons to Mandos and the Halls of Waiting is, the Eldar say, frequent. It was less frequent, however, in ancient days, while Morgoth was in Arda, or his servant Sauron after him; for then the fea unbodied would flee in terror of the Shadow to any refuge - unless it were already committed to the Darkness and passed then into its dominion. In like manner even of the Eldar some who had become corrupted refused the summons, and then had little power to resist the counter-summons of Morgoth.
                            But it would seem that in these after-days more and more of the Elves, be they of the Eldalie in origin or be they of other kinds, who linger in Middle-earth now refuse the summons of
                            Mandos, and wander houseless in the world,* unwilling to leave it (40) and unable to inhabit it, haunting trees or springs or hidden places that once they knew. Not all of these are kindly or
                            (* For only those who willingly go to Mandos may be re-born. Re-birth is a grace, and comes of the power that Eru committed to the Valar for the ruling of Arda and the redress of its marring. It does not lie in the power of any fea in itself. Only those return whom, after Mandos has spoken the doom of release, Manwe and Varda bless.)
                            unstained by the Shadow. Indeed the refusal of the summons is in itself a sign of taint.
                            It is therefore a foolish and perilous thing, besides being a wrong deed forbidden justly by the appointed Rulers of Arda, if the Living seek to commune with the Unbodied, though the houseless may desire it, especially the most unworthy among them. For the Unbodied, wandering in the world, are those who at the least have refused the door of life and remain in regret and self-pity. Some are filled with bitterness, grievance, and envy. Some were enslaved by the Dark Lord and do his work still, though he himself is gone. They will not speak truth or wisdom. To call on them is folly. To attempt to master them and to make them servants of one own's will is wickedness. Such practices are of Morgoth; and the necromancers are of the host of Sauron his servant.
                            Some say that the Houseless desire bodies, though they are not willing to seek them lawfully by submission to the judgement of Mandos. The wicked among them will take bodies, if they can, unlawfully. The peril of communing with them is, therefore, not only the peril of being deluded by fantasies or lies: there is peril also of destruction. For one of the hungry Houseless, if it is admitted to the friendship of the Living, may seek to eject the fea from its body; and in the contest for mastery the body may be gravely injured, even if it he not wrested from its rightful habitant. Or the Houseless may plead for shelter, and if it is admitted, then it will seek to enslave its host and use both his will and his body for its own purposes. It is said that Sauron did these things, and taught his followers how to achieve them.
                            [Thus it may be seen that those who in latter days hold that the Elves are dangerous to Men and that it is folly or wickedness to seek converse with them do not speak without reason. For how, it may be asked, shall a mortal distinguish the kinds? On the one hand, the Houseless, rebels at least against the Rulers, and maybe even deeper under the Shadow; on the other, the Lingerers, whose bodily forms may no longer be seen by us mortals, or seen only dimly and fitfully. Yet the answer is not in truth difficult. Evil is not one thing among Elves and another among Men. Those who give evil counsel, or speak against the Rulers (or if they dare, against the One), are evil, and should be shunned whether bodied or unbodied. Moreover, the Lingerers are not houseless, though they may seem to be. They do not desire bodies, neither do they seek shelter, nor strive for mastery over body or mind. Indeed they do not seek converse with Men at all, save maybe rarely, either for the doing of some good, or because they perceive in a Man's spirit some love of things ancient and fair. Then they may reveal to him their forms (through his mind working outwardly, maybe), and he will behold them in their beauty. Of such he may have no fear, though he may feel awe of them. For the Houseless have no forms to reveal, and even if it were within their power (as some Men say) to counterfeit elvish forms, deluding the minds of Men with fantasies, such visions would be marred by the evil of their intent. For the hearts of true Men uprise in joy to behold the true likenesses of the First-born, their elder kindred; and this joy nothing evil can counterfeit. So spoke AElfwine.


                            IP属地:安徽14楼2015-05-20 19:19
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                              那我硬着头皮翻一下?要是语句不通顺请理解下下
                              fea(灵魂)是单一的,并且到最后都坚不可摧。它不能被带去曼督斯,而是被召唤。这个召唤来自权威,而且是必不可少的;但它可能被拒绝。在精灵最初的那些年拒绝维拉召唤(或者邀请)到阿门洲,拒绝被召唤到曼督斯和等待之厅,艾尔达说,是频繁的。然而在古代没有那么频繁,当魔苟斯还在阿尔达,或他的仆人索伦在的时候;因为没有身体的fea在恐怖的阴影下会逃往任何避难所-除非它已经向黑暗承诺并进入其领域。在像这情况下已经堕落的Eldar拒绝召唤,然后几乎没有力量去抵抗魔苟斯的反召唤。
                              但似乎在这之后的日子,越来越多的精灵,起源于艾尔达或者其他种族,徘徊在中土拒绝曼督斯的召唤,没有房子的游荡在这世上,不愿意离开它,也无法居住于它,出没在乔木或泉水或隐蔽处这些以前他们知道的地方。他们并不全都是善良的或没被阴影影响的。事实上,拒绝召唤本身就是一种被污染的标志。
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                              艾玛我自己都看不下去了,这个恐怖的语序楼主能看懂不


                              IP属地:安徽15楼2015-05-20 20:17
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